Thoughts About Boobs

December 12, 2013 § 7 Comments

katehed

I’ve been thinking about breasts lately. Why? Well, I’ve just been confronted with small incidents that made me pause and think. But all this ruminating mostly comprises a mass of thoughts that have yet to lead to a conclusion, so I’ll dump them below in an effort to sort them out. Here goes:

1. Some men are obsessed with breasts

In forums and comment sections where people discuss things like “My husband has a small penis” or “NYC women don’t date short men,” you will inevitably find embittered straight men who compare these perceived physical shortcomings with breast size.

“Women can discriminate based on height and penis size but we’re seen as shallow if we won’t date a woman with small breasts?!??!” they rant.

Toy StorySane people usually just ignore them. But the comments make me wonder whether straight (American) men really care about breasts that much. They don’t comment on, say, roundness of posterior or symmetry of face (i.e. other qualities usually seen as appealing), just all boobs all the time. And they’re not just obsessed with breasts — they’re clearly obsessed with BIG ones. Does this body part really mean that much to men? I’d like to think of those trolls as a deranged minority, but I don’t really know.

There’s some connection to the fact that breast augmentation is the most common cosmetic surgery in the U.S., but it takes too many words to parse out so I’ll just leave the thought here.

2. Breasts are oversexualized

This bit of truth should be universally accepted by now. The fact that there’s still a stigma surrounding public breastfeeding is the perfect illustration, though I still can’t for the life of me understand why people would be against it. If you find a nursing baby somehow “inappropriate” or “indecent,” then you need help.

Don’t even get me started on the “Save the ta-tas” and “I heart boobies” campaigns. God, please let them die. In a fire.

3. Breasts = NSFW

The majority of the time when you see something labeled as “NSFW,” it really means “naked boobies here.” Sure, there are lots of things that you shouldn’t be viewing at work — cat videos, illegally downloaded movies, etc. — but once a woman’s nipple has been flashed, that’s when you know for sure it’s NSFW. I helped compile Rolling Stone’s list of NSFW year-end videos (I didn’t help choose them, however), and exposed breasts were pretty much the common denominator. (Yawn.) It’s not the only thing you shouldn’t be viewing at work, but it’s an easy place to draw the line.

I think what confuses my thought process the most is that it feels like contemporary artists — musicians, photographers,  directors, etc. — use naked breasts to add some kind of shock value to their projects. (“Look at these nipples! I’m so edgy and avant-garde!”) Whether that is actually their intent, I cannot verify. But we’ve all seen so many boobs that the usage of them in such a manner seems dull and cliché. So basically, seeing naked breasts in media doesn’t surprise me, but viscerally it still kind of does, which I actively have to suppress. Which leads me to… 

4. Breasts are awkward?

As someone who grew up in the U.S. (and was raised by Chinese parents), I was imbued with my fair share of conservatism. Seeing another woman’s naked breast is still enough to disconcert me in public and make me uncomfortable in private (e.g. locker rooms). I can’t help it, even if I want to.

5. Breasts should be meaningless

So, given men’s preoccupation with breasts and my own discomfort in looking at them, my natural instinct is to prefer for breasts to be covered up. Don’t let teh menz see them! (And don’t flash them in my face por favor?) But when I say that, I don’t even know what context I’m talking about — I don’t have a problem with cleavage or bikinis or other forms of normalized clothing that show lots of boob. If you got it, flaunt it, is my attitude. (Though I’m still not sure about crop tops that show underboob; those seem bafflingly impractical and uncomfortable.)

Sleepy HollowSo am I just afraid of nipples?? And WHY? When a celebrity phone gets hacked or photos surface of celebrities sunbathing topless, why can’t I stop myself from clicking on those stories??? Why am I discomfited by nipples in real life yet morbidly fascinated with those of famous women??!?

At the same time, I know covering up is not the solution. First of all, it’s kind of too late. Feminists have long pointed out the hypocrisy of America putting sexual images everywhere in advertising while at the same time trying to drag the country back to its puritanical roots in terms of legislation and sex education. The same can be said for breasts: Imagery of cleavage is bountiful and celebrated, but heaven forbid a woman lets a nipple slip!

In New York, it’s legal for women to be topless in public. (Doesn’t stop police from arresting them, though.) I would be taken aback if I saw someone enjoying that right, but I don’t think it’s gross or wrong. Breasts are just breasts. Stop making them into something more!!

Nine hundred words later, I think I’ve boiled down my misgivings to this: I want to support and celebrate women in letting their breasts go free and naked. But in many instances, I still get the feeling that they’re/we’re being exploited, or at the very least leered at by men. (This is why we can’t have nice things.) And that makes me uncomfortable. Also, nipple fear makes no sense.

So those are my thoughts about boobs.

§ 7 Responses to Thoughts About Boobs

  • I was highly amused by your post, but these are all valid points, and I agree with your thoughts on #1, #2, #3, #4, and the sentiment on #5. I generally push against forces that suggest there’s a specific quality (in anything) that is universally better or more attractive. The is a diverse range of people out there, and an equally diverse range of perspectives on what constitutes ideal/attractive; in other words, it’s highly individual, and I wouldn’t read too much into the “bigger is better” sentiment, which is way overstated in American culture. Be individual, and celebrate the beauty that’s in all of us!

    Still, as long as men are attracted to women, I don’t think it’s possible (or should) to eliminate the social effect that breasts have; men don’t have them, so they’re a quality exclusively associated with females.

    Your post made me do some research, and found this fascinating study, with has some telling insights into how breasts play into attraction. I took an animal behavior class recently, so it’s fascinating to see human male mating strategies under similar analysis:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3210352/

    From the discussion:
    “Large breasts received higher attractiveness ratings from men who scored high on the SOI-R than from men who scored relatively low. This means that men who tend to engage in short-term, low-commitment relationships (unrestricted men) are more attracted to large breast sizes than men who tend to engage in long-term relationships with high emotional commitment (restricted men) (Simpson & Gangestad, 1991).”

    “Previous research has shown that females with large breasts are perceived as being more promiscuous and more sexually open than females with smaller breasts (Furnham et al., 1998; Millstred & Frith, 2003; Tantleff-Dunn, 2002). Females with smaller breasts are perceived not only as moral and modest but also as competent, ambitious, and intelligent. Women with large breasts are attributed the opposite character traits (Kleinke & Staneski, 1980) and, therefore, such women may be perceived as less attractive to restricted men.”

    Fascinating no? I wouldn’t read into it *too* much though as the standard deviation is pretty high. There’s still much more study, and discussion to be had! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on boobs!

    • auradis says:

      Mmm I’ve seen those studies before and I never know what to do with the information afterward. Like, okay, now I know this information that makes me think poorly of humans in general….now what?

  • Why would you not think about boobs, and legs and ass, and necks

  • hurray for community showers! says:

    As for #1, I’ll chime in on this as a guy. As much as I enjoy playing with a nice, large set of funbags, I appreciate a smaller, good looking pair much more. Also, I would never consider breast size as a factor when determining a chick’s date-worthiness and I’ve never talked to a guy that felt contrary (but I’m sure some exist).

    Regarding #2, I get the feeling that boobs are oversexualized because us men can’t see the goodies until sex is a happenin’. If you want this to go away, then it would have to be socially acceptable for ladies to expose their chesticles in non-sexual environments as men do. The leering would take some time to dissipate as booby freedom normalized.

    • auradis says:

      I always wonder if Europe (or at last certain European countries) is as blasé about boob freedom as it’s made out to be. Alas, I’ve never been..

  • Michael says:

    I’ve never known a man for whom boob size was a dealbreaker– while for women, a man’s height commonly is.

    Also, what do you think about butts? Does everything you wrote above also apply, or why not?

    Butts butts butts….

    • auradis says:

      True, and I mostly wanted to point out that the comparison is irrelevant/false. Women do tend to discriminate much more regarding height, but at the same time they’re not perverse and/or creepy about it like men are about breasts.

      Butts are a totally different topic…I like butts. Everyone has a butt! I like men wearing skinny jeans so I can check out their butts :)

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